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Author Topic: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
mwseniff

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Post Re: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
on: December 6, 2012, 05:25
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Quote from Oinkus on December 5, 2012, 06:24
Oooooh Vibracell ! Some of those have a Roland pup too I am guessing? Very neat stuff never played one, tried to buy one when they were selling out on MF cheap but no luck.

Yes they did have a model with a Roland PUP but I put GK3's o 2 of mine, synth triggering was improved by the Vibracell they worked very well with my old Roland GR-30 better than any other guitar I have (but with my new GR-55 the triggering is great with all my GK equipped guitars). I have 3 Oscars (Les Paul variants) 2 are black and the 3rd has an odd bridge and string thru it is a garish yellow/orange paint job. The 4th guitar is sort of tele shaped with a molded string harp style string anchor at the bottom of the guitar it's has a very garish yellow red and purple paint job. The 2 that have the garish paint job came from a guy that bought out a lot of remaining stock and sold it on Ebay. I always wanted one of the fretless basses and one of the 3-P90 models. I would buy another anytime I find a good deal but they seem to go for more bucks these days. I did get one guitar in shipping that had the neck snapped off right below the headstock but even still it was almost in tune when I unpacked it. I returned it it was the wrong model a strat clone with a trem (uck I have little use for trems since I play slide).

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Post Re: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
on: December 6, 2012, 05:53
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I am beyond jealous ! Just another of the things I don't have in my arsenal is a synth setup , and now I miss my Steinberger again ,the graphite neck was just the coolest thing I had ever played.(even if it had EMGs in it )

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Post Re: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
on: December 6, 2012, 09:14
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Quote from Oinkus on December 6, 2012, 05:53
I am beyond jealous ! Just another of the things I don't have in my arsenal is a synth setup , and now I miss my Steinberger again ,the graphite neck was just the coolest thing I had ever played.(even if it had EMGs in it )

I always wanted to try a Steinberger especially the transcale one with the built in capo. An acquaintance had one of the licensed ones with a double cut body by another co. but he had it so screwed up it was completely unplayable. But he was unwilling to let anyone try to fix it for him (a first class jerk).

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Post Re: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
on: December 15, 2012, 15:39
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Those trans-scale Steinbergers were an amazing piece of engineering. Ned Steinberger is one of the most blazingly intelligent guys ever to join the guitar community. (Guess it runs in the family — his dad was a Nobel Prize winner. )

I was over a Jerry Harrison's studio a while ago, and he had his old Steinberger lying around. Those guitars really have a thing. Not a thing for everybody, but a thing nonetheless.

I bet you can pick them up real cheaply these days.

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Post Re: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
on: December 15, 2012, 17:41
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Quote from joe on December 15, 2012, 15:39
I bet you can pick them [Steinbergers] up real cheaply these days.

Any of the graphite-necked models will run you at least a grand in typical sales. Trans-trem equipped models two or more. You might get lucky in odd corners, but there is an intense if small market for those guitars.

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Post Re: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
on: January 11, 2013, 10:59
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So has anyone experimented with this using "parts" Pauls and SGs, like the ones from Warmoth and All Parts that have bolt-on necks? Anyone heard these side-by-side with their set-neck cousins?

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Post Re: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
on: January 11, 2013, 18:47
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I'm in the process of building a LP Jr body with a bolt on tele neck. Warmoth was served a ceases and desist order from Gibson over their guitar shapes, and so they longer offer LPs and SGs. You can get an LP style bolt on here: https://www.bestguitarparts.com/guitar-part/392/LP_Mahogany_Electric_Guitar_Body.htm

It's funny how a bolt LP style guitar evokes cheap low budget, while Fender stratocasters and other higher end guitars come with bolt on necks don't suffer this stigma.

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on: January 13, 2013, 09:34
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Let us know how it turns out, please!

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Post Re: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
on: January 13, 2013, 13:47
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I'd happily play the Godin bolt-on's that are Gibson flavored. And if PRS wanted to do their CE-type bolt-on construction (out of production now?) with mahogany neck and body I wouldn't bat an eye. It's probably a matter of all the Asian-rim manufacturers for the last four decades doing their cheapest Gibson style guitars with bolt-on necks that gives bad associations.

To an extent, I'm more comfortable with such things than an unseen glued neck pocket that might have ridiculous amounts of glue in lieu of a well crafted fit.

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Post Re: Myth Busters: Bolt on vs Set Neck vs Neck Through
on: January 16, 2013, 22:59
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Then there's the question of the neck tennon. Some guitars, Gibson SGs for example, have a ridiculously small amount of of wood connecting the neck to the body. On a Strat or Tele, you essentially have a 3" by 2.2" area that's firmly bolted to almost an inch thick slab.

Makes you wonder at what is really happening here. Seems a strat neck bolted on doesn't sound like it has as much of a connection as you'd get with a glued neck. But, and I would do this if I was a rock star, I would smash a few, on stage of course, to see how they held up! From general experience, I'd say the SG would come apart pretty easily, and the Strat would be bomb proof. I remember seeing Pete Townsend destroy a speaker cab, with a strat, on British TV. I seem to remember him saying the guitar played fine afterward.

And what does that say about sustain? Not sure, Joe get to work, we need some fancy graphs and measurements, you're rock star with a collection of guitars...

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