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smgear

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Post Steelcaster
on: August 14, 2012, 13:37
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I love the sound of the Trussart steelcasters, but the prices are ridiculously beyond affordable for the common man. I'll be back in the states in a couple months and will have access to a good workshop/tools/scrap yard so I'm considering building one of these. There are lots of special considerations when working with a metal frame. Have any of you done anything similar? Any suggestions are welcome.

I think I might do a steel top first just to make my mistakes less costly. Anyways, it should be a fun project.

Thecoslar

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Post Re: Steelcaster
on: August 14, 2012, 17:15
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I'm a professional blacksmith, so I'll be happy to answer any metalworking questions. I'm not real familiar with metal guitars, but steel is my business. Let me know what you want to do and I'll be happy to give any advice you need.

smgear

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Post Re: Steelcaster
on: August 14, 2012, 17:46
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Excellent Thecoslar! I'll keep you in mind when I get started and might send some questions over(won't be for a couple months yet). Offhand though, do you have any suggestions for a good sealant/rust proofer? I'd like to keep the steel pretty rustic looking if possible, but I'm not sure how to coat it apart from buffing/primer/paint. On the other hand, I think a blue steel wash might look good if my welding is pretty enough - which it probably won't be.

el reclusa

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Post Re: Steelcaster
on: August 14, 2012, 20:58
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I'm not 100% sure, but I'd guess Trussarts are stamped, kinda like a steel-bodied National. There's a cool series of youtube videos touring the National factory that shows 'em being made, it's pretty awesome. My understanding was that Trussart leaves bodies outside to "weather" for a while, then knocks the rough off 'em, smooths them out and clear coats them, but again- just what I read. The one and only experience I've had playing a Trussart was a non-distressed Steelcaster that was shiny as a new penny, but oh momma- that thing was one of the finest guitars I've ever played. Good luck with your build and post pics!

smgear

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Post Re: Steelcaster
on: August 15, 2012, 05:25
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I just watched those videos. They're great. Fortunately, I've got a good stock pile of weathered material (35 years of scrap metal piles at the family business) so I'll just need to coat them. The cutting and welding/soldering will be the tricky part to get the seems smooth without warping. I'll post updates when/if? I get started.

Oinkus

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Post Re: Steelcaster
on: August 15, 2012, 05:30
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Used to have an aluminum Tele(was a loaner) they made Strats too in the early 90s. Would have to say it was probably cast in a mold because it was hollow. Fantastic guitar all around if you ask me so was the Strat just like it that I played.Never touched a Trussart way out of my league.

Jeff_H

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Post Re: Steelcaster
on: August 15, 2012, 06:50
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Just so everyone knows, our host Joe shows up on the Artist Page at Trussert. He may be able to shed some insight on them, or may need to keep quiet.

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Thecoslar

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Post Re: Steelcaster
on: August 15, 2012, 10:33
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Quote from smgear on August 14, 2012, 17:46
Offhand though, do you have any suggestions for a good sealant/rust proofer? I'd like to keep the steel pretty rustic looking if possible, but I'm not sure how to coat it apart from buffing/primer/paint. On the other hand, I think a blue steel wash might look good if my welding is pretty enough - which it probably won't be.

It depends on a bunch of factors. Rustoleum makes a couple clear finishes that might do what you want. When you say "rustic", a few things come to mind. You could do a hammered, faceted finish (either genuine or faux), you could do all sorts or interesting things with rust, black iron oxide (rust's heat created cousin), or enameling. It all depends on the look you're going for.

smgear

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Post Re: Steelcaster
on: August 15, 2012, 13:20
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Thanks. I'll look into the Rustoleum products. I'm not really sure what exact look I'm going for anyways. I'll probably just see if I can find any scrap that speaks to me. Perhaps use an old sign or a piece off another machine. If not, I'll just buy some new sheets and go for a cleaner look. I don't think I want to deal with too much treatment - just something to seal the steel from further rust and keep any existing rust from rubbing off on me. I'll also coat the inside with something to shield interference.

Thecoslar

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Post Re: Steelcaster
on: August 15, 2012, 15:41
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As far as sonic performance goes, and I'm just thinking of this now, your welds will have to be damn tight and smooth not to screw with vibrations (if you have to weld at all). I suggest TIG over anything else, maybe MIG if you have to. Stay away from arc and stick for this project, the welds are strong but the molecules aren't particularly dense and do not lend themselves to conveying vibration. Little stuff goes a long way with steel. I might have to start my own project now, because my brain is going in about a thousand different directions.

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