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joe
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Post Anyone Using Thunderbolt Yet?
on: July 28, 2012, 23:51
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Has anyone had a chance to work with an audio interface connected via Thunderbolt? Supposedly this is going to make PCI card systems obsolete.

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Post Re: Anyone Using Thunderbolt Yet?
on: October 4, 2012, 20:34
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Okay, I'll respond to my own unanswered question: I FINALLY switched my studio over to Thunderbolt, thanks to the new Universal Audio Apollo Thunderbolt card. I've only fooled around with it few a few hours, but it seems to work great. Sample streaming works fabulously, even huge instruments like big BFD drum kits, the Ivory pianos, and big orchestral libraries. So far, so good.

But damn — $50 for each Thunderbolt cable? (And none of the Thunderbolt devices come with cables — not the new Macs, not the UA Apollo card, not the expensive Thunderbolt RAID drive. Grr.

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Post Re: Anyone Using Thunderbolt Yet?
on: October 5, 2012, 04:29
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Ouch! And you wonder why I can't record anything ? Tried a few interfaces and returned them think I might just go out and look in bargain stores for a 4 track or something.I still have some unopened cassettes from the 80s they should be useable.

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Post Re: Anyone Using Thunderbolt Yet?
on: October 5, 2012, 06:29
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yeah, I can't wrap my head around why the hi bandwidth serial market is such a mess. Firewire was great, most of the a/v devices still require it, but no-one makes laptops with them anymore - or even with pcmcia slots. USB 3 works great and is common on laptops/pc, but none of the usb i/o devices support it. Thunderbolt sounds like a good platform, but again they're keeping the protocol locked up so only a limited number of 3rd parties are developing/supporting it. With avid and UAD on board, things will shift that way, but until non-apple adopts it, things are going to stay really complicated and costly for users.

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Post Re: Anyone Using Thunderbolt Yet?
on: October 30, 2012, 09:37
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Here's a good article on the significance of Thunderbolt by my ol' pal Craig Anderton: https://www.uaudio.com/blog/thunderbolt-basics/

It's "advertorial" from the Universal Audio site, but it's super-informative. And I don't mind the UAD pimping because I LOVE their current stuff. 😉

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Post Re: Anyone Using Thunderbolt Yet?
on: October 30, 2012, 09:55
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So many moving targets. Firewire is going the way of the dodo even for audio, there largely because PC manufacturers insisted on cheaping out on their controllers. USB2 has finally gotten pretty mature for moderate I/O use but USB3 has come along with some backward compatibility issues. Now Thunderbolt, which has great potential as it's basically an outboard PCI bus -- hopefully controller problems don't shoot it in the foot like for Firewire.

And then there's the SPDIF/AES/TDIF/MADI wars.

(It all reminds me of the snarky explanation of the laptop card PCMCIA format name: People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms.)

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Post Re: Anyone Using Thunderbolt Yet?
on: November 10, 2012, 13:23
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Update: I've been running my studio on a Mac Mini Server, Thunderbolt, and a Universal Audio Apollo for a month or so now, switching over from a Mac Pro and two PCIe-based systems (Pro Tools HD and Apogee). It's working out really well. I still love the Apollo. In most case it works fine. The Mac Mini sometimes feels underpowered compared the previous computer — some of the more demanding software-synth plug-ins are demanding enough to choke it in high-res mode. But the Thunderbolt aspects are awesome — sample streaming and audio playback are incredibly smooth and fast. I definitely don't miss those horrible PCIe cards, though I might switch back to a more powerful iMac or Pro (if Apple deigns to update that line in a meaningful way). But overall, I'm really digging this lean, clean and relatively inexpensive setup. 🙂

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